My latest project

[Robert]

I had to tear out my dash to run some new wires for my new (to me) power windows. Ive been kicking around the idea of installing my three Koda 8's in the dash, so I figured while I had it out, I would start it 8)

I was planning on putting all three in there, but after some more trimming of the dash and seeing how I could make the encloser removable after its done, I think Im only going to run two..

[95Honda]

Awsome man!

Can't wait to see the finished product!

You are going to have some serious midbass in there.....

[neostar]

Will that mess with the imaging. Or is midbass not directional.

[TalNLnky]

Will that mess with the imaging. Or is midbass not directional.
as long as he keeps it lowpassed no higher than 150-200hz it soundn't pose much of an issue.

[neostar]

well in that case its pretty sweet.

[Robert]

Well. I'll have sweet midbass coming from a pair of Extremis getting around 50 wpcs :lol: :wink: These little babies are going to be 80hz's and down 8)

[singlesubsetup]

any more pics?

[Robert]

Ive been working two jobs right now. If Im not working or driving to work, Im sleeping :( It has changed a bit since these pics, but nothing worth showing just yet.

[TalNLnky]

yeah.... talked to your dad a lil bit the other night.... He said you just got the computer back & the cable working... and that when you first started using it.... that you were making funny noises hehehe.

hope you don't burn out with the 2 jobs and all...

[singlesubsetup]

Ive been working two jobs right now

wtf???? 2 JOBS!!!!?????

Rob I've been without internet for alittle while but hit me up dude what up with that??? (the 2 jobs) (had to re install win xp to deleate all the viruses I had :( )

you/we still gonna do the 6 15's project? let me know cause I just purchased another set of 15's (4 total now :wink: )

keep me posted :)

[Robert]

Yeah, Im still game for the project. The two jobs thing isnt going to keep on (hopefully :oops: ).. We just redid our whole computer too to, so dont feel bad. Im no longer on aol and I havent had time to try and get aim downloaded and running. I'll have some free time the rest of this week, I'll try and get everything going to chat online :) 8)

[Robert]

yeah.... talked to your dad a lil bit the other night.... He said you just got the computer back & the cable working... and that when you first started using it.... that you were making funny noises hehehe.

hope you don't burn out with the 2 jobs and all...

What were you chatting online with? As far as I know, nothing on this computer is running for chatting.. Then again, he may have been over at his girlys house checking his old aol account.. :?

And yeah, Im loving the broadband internet. I havent got a whole lot of time on it, but its freakin SWEET :shock: :twisted: 8)

[TalNLnky]

yeah.... talked to your dad a lil bit the other night.... He said you just got the computer back & the cable working... and that when you first started using it.... that you were making funny noises hehehe.

hope you don't burn out with the 2 jobs and all...

What were you chatting online with? As far as I know, nothing on this computer is running for chatting.. Then again, he may have been over at his girlys house checking his old aol account.. :?

And yeah, Im loving the broadband internet. I havent got a whole lot of time on it, but its freakin SWEET :shock: :twisted: 8)

yeah.. i think he said something about not being at home.

[Robert]

Update pics. From what I had in the first set of pics. I put the dash back in the car then glassed up and around where I think I wanted the box to end. Since then, it has been sanded with 40 grit to open up some weak spots and to blend the two sessions. Then glassed again to what these pics are. There is 60 sq ft of mat and around 80 oz's of resin to this point. Most of the glass is around 4 layers thick which I think will be fine. Theres very few flat spots.

[95Honda]

Looks great!

You really have the glass work down. I bet that system is just gonna rip your head off....

I can't wait to get my alt and finish up my sub system in my truck. You are getting me motivated, seeing your pictures and all...

[singlesubsetup]

man, that looks really nice, PLEASE tell me when your ready to fire it up so I can listen to it :) :wink:

[Robert]

Well, today is a good day. I got my FR's in (ordered them saturday 8) ) The pics arnt the greatest, but this gives me everything I need for my front stage. Looking at RE's group buy, Im thinking of buying a pair of SX 18's for the back half :twisted: :shock: 8) .

[TalNLnky]

Well, today is a good day. I got my FR's in (ordered them saturday 8) ) The pics arnt the greatest, but this gives me everything I need for my front stage. Looking at RE's group buy, Im thinking of buying a pair of SX 18's for the back half :twisted: :shock: 8) .
TOOL!
you just had to have more midbass than me. 1 extra koda8 & 3 times the power.... BAH! I'LL STILL BE LOUDER.... by .3dB.




YOU KNOW IT!

[Robert]

Um, last time we talked about your car, I believe your k8's are for midbass? Mine are for staight bass. The Extremis will take up the midbass. And I have the FR's :P :lol: :wink: :D

Edit: Lets see an ib'ed tempest be .3 db's louder than a pair of 18's. And remember, my 8's will be right next to the mic 8)

[TalNLnky]

Um, last time we talked about your car, I believe your k8's are for midbass? Mine are for staight bass. The Extremis will take up the midbass. And I have the FR's :P :lol: :wink: :D

Edit: Lets see an ib'ed tempest be .3 db's louder than a pair of 18's. And remember, my 8's will be right next to the mic 8)

better idea, lets see if somebody can somehow NOT break 140 with a pair of QUALITY 15's and 1.2kw's.

i think you already told me... but i forgot already, where did you plan on crossing all this stuff over at?

[Robert]

Um, last time we talked about your car, I believe your k8's are for midbass? Mine are for staight bass. The Extremis will take up the midbass. And I have the FR's :P :lol: :wink: :D

Edit: Lets see an ib'ed tempest be .3 db's louder than a pair of 18's. And remember, my 8's will be right next to the mic 8)

better idea, lets see if somebody can somehow NOT break 140 with a pair of QUALITY 15's and 1.2kw's.

i think you already told me... but i forgot already, where did you plan on crossing all this stuff over at?

:P

I dont know excatly where everything will be crossed at. K8's will probably be around 80hz's down. Extremis will be from 80hz's up to around 3-700 hz's and the Fr's will take over from there. Depending on how the fr's do, I still may add a tweeter. I think if I did that, I get alittle bigger amp for the extremis. Something like the Orion 8002 which I believe is 200x2 at 4 ohms. Then depending on if I get the SX's. I may try and do some crazy thing by spliting the sub frequencies between the k8's and sx's. Maybe run the sx's up to 50-60hz's, and split everything else up from there. All this is going to take some time to get right. But I think it will be pretty bitchen in the end. 8)

[TalNLnky]

Um, last time we talked about your car, I believe your k8's are for midbass? Mine are for staight bass. The Extremis will take up the midbass. And I have the FR's :P :lol: :wink: :D

Edit: Lets see an ib'ed tempest be .3 db's louder than a pair of 18's. And remember, my 8's will be right next to the mic 8)

better idea, lets see if somebody can somehow NOT break 140 with a pair of QUALITY 15's and 1.2kw's.

i think you already told me... but i forgot already, where did you plan on crossing all this stuff over at?

:P

I dont know excatly where everything will be crossed at. K8's will probably be around 80hz's down. Extremis will be from 80hz's up to around 3-700 hz's and the Fr's will take over from there. Depending on how the fr's do, I still may add a tweeter. I think if I did that, I get alittle bigger amp for the extremis. Something like the Orion 8002 which I believe is 200x2 at 4 ohms. Then depending on if I get the SX's. I may try and do some crazy thing by spliting the sub frequencies between the k8's and sx's. Maybe run the sx's up to 50-60hz's, and split everything else up from there. All this is going to take some time to get right. But I think it will be pretty bitchen in the end. 8)

if you have those FR's angled towards your head, i don't think you'll need a tweeter.... even my WR's come close.... and i haven't angled them yet. THo.... i am really sensative to those upper freqs, so maybe you will want more.

[Robert]

Alittle update, from what there is to update. I havent had much motivation lately becuase of the weather.

[Robert]

Oh, this was an update. Well, to update. Im only going to stuff two k8's in the dash to keep it somewhat low key. I dont want them over exposed for anyone whos looking. :?

Anyways, becuase of the weather, I decided to start another project that could be done mostly indoors. So here it is:

[singlesubsetup]

:shock: dayum look at all the snow :shock: WE got some snow down in seattle but NOTHING like that... I was hoping that I wouldnt have to go to work tomorrow... oh well...

time to break out the shovel rob lmao :D (oh nice kicks btw ) <thumbs up>

How'd the job thing go?

[Robert]

No snow. Lucky you. Im suprised I even made it home tonight. It started snowing hard right when I got off work. It was 40 mph on the uncleared freeway and 15mph the rest of the way. My car and snow is NOT a good combination :oops: Right now we have at least 5 inches at my house.

You need to hop on aim every once in a while!

[singlesubsetup]

bah, i dont want to blow your ears up talking about how I wish I had 2 more 15's ( to make 6 total :shock: ) and that I'm working on the amps after the 1st of Janurary.... I'd rather have ALLLLLL my stuff then start buggin you :wink:

But I would like to hear your setup when you thaw out and get out from under the blizzard :D

[Steven Kephart]

We had snow like that as well too. It finally almost all melted away today and now I look outside and we are getting some more. It looks like your Geo's going to have to wait even longer. Can't wait to see it finished though. BTW, if you want some help, or even some company just let me know.

[singlesubsetup]

aww thats soooo sweet ^^^^^ :lol:

Our snow never really got a foothold here in seattle, dusted some rooftops, grass, and side walks but thats about it... (maybe all the heat generated from all the polution here lol :D

Lets us know whats up Rob <thumbs up>

[Robert]

We had snow like that as well too. It finally almost all melted away today and now I look outside and we are getting some more. It looks like your Geo's going to have to wait even longer. Can't wait to see it finished though. BTW, if you want some help, or even some company just let me know.

Its going away down here too (for now :? )

I dont usually work on my projects for too long. Maybe an hour or two whenever I get motivated or bored lol. I think this summer when singlesub gets his gear together, I may hold a little bbq/get together/install party. The plan is to take a week or two off work (paid of course) and try to get the whole install done in one shot. But with that, help and company would be great. I cant really think of building and installing a 24 cube box by myself :oops:

[TalNLnky]

aww thats soooo sweet ^^^^^ :lol:

Our snow never really got a foothold here in seattle, dusted some rooftops, grass, and side walks but thats about it... (maybe all the heat generated from all the polution here lol :D

Lets us know whats up Rob <thumbs up>

actually... its the warm air from off of the pacific ocean... Britain has the same exact maritime (sp?) climate. Yeah, its not fun being in the cold, but if I have to be here, i'm very thankful for who ever invented remote start. I don't know how people can live without it. Technology is old enough, you'd think every middleclass resident over here would have one.


back on topic a lil.... 95honda just recently put up insulation, drywall and a heater in his garage. He's set for working through the winters now.

[95Honda]

Finishing that Garage was a pain in the butt! I worked on it all weekend and every day after work until it was done last night...

Insulation, attic, drywall, wiring, lights mud-tape-sand-paint in 5 days....

My arms are freakin killing me...

[Robert]

Finishing that Garage was a pain in the butt! I worked on it all weekend and every day after work until it was done last night...

Insulation, attic, drywall, wiring, lights mud-tape-sand-paint in 5 days....

My arms are freakin killing me...

Wish I lived closer, Id help for help or comfy garage time :D

[Robert]

Speakers rings.

[TalNLnky]

nice grill

[Robert]

Thats the grills css is offering with the drivers. They really arnt anything special. Just 1/2" mdf with a camfer on the outside, 4 small magnets to attactch to the mounting screws and wrapped in grill cloth. Just one less than I have to worry about 8)

I thought these little 4's would be easier to mount that the koda comps. Its actually more of a pain since they have to be mounted on axis. :oops:

[singlesubsetup]

nice... I cant wait to hear it ...

[TalNLnky]

Thats the grills css is offering with the drivers. They really arnt anything special. Just 1/2" mdf with a camfer on the outside, 4 small magnets to attactch to the mounting screws and wrapped in grill cloth. Just one less than I have to worry about 8)

I thought these little 4's would be easier to mount that the koda comps. Its actually more of a pain since they have to be mounted on axis. :oops:

oh... fuck that cheater... i thought you made some grills :D

[Robert]

They would be very easy to make with a router table (which I dont currenty have) I hate making small speaker rings with a free base router.

[Robert]

Mounting the drivers side. Trying to angle as on axis as possible with keeping it out of the way of where the extremis will go and the clutch pedal. Also trying to mount it high enough to peak over where my legs are when driving. What a pita :? :oops: :)

[TalNLnky]

are those going to be vented out the rear of the kick... into the carpet? by "vented" i mean, non-sealed/breathable, as opposed to ported. I think i remember you wanting to cross them over fairly high, in which case you prolly could get away with venting them out the back.

[Robert]

are those going to be vented out the rear of the kick... into the carpet? by "vented" i mean, non-sealed/breathable, as opposed to ported. I think i remember you wanting to cross them over fairly high, in which case you prolly could get away with venting them out the back.

Sealed and pointed right at my head. No consideration for the passenger :twisted:

[TalNLnky]

Sealed and pointed right at my head. No consideration for the passenger :twisted:

like you ever have to worry about a passenger

[Robert]

Sealed and pointed right at my head. No consideration for the passenger :twisted:

like you ever have to worry about a passenger

Exactly!! I have no passengers... EVER :oops: :cry: :twisted: Yet another person rubs in my lack of a social life. Its been almost 2 months since someone has been in my car with me lmao.. So to hell with them :twisted:

[TalNLnky]

Sealed and pointed right at my head. No consideration for the passenger :twisted:

like you ever have to worry about a passenger

Exactly!! I have no passengers... EVER :oops: :cry: :twisted: Yet another person rubs in my lack of a social life. Its been almost 2 months since someone has been in my car with me lmao.. So to hell with them :twisted:

ouch... thats sad. drive to spokane... i'll ride with you... we can get our roll on. hahaha

[Robert]

Brother came up with the idea of string testing. OOOOook, so I let him help. This is as far as I got yesterday before it got too damn cold. Needs alittle more tweaking. Then I'll try to stiffen up the rings so i can trim the fiberglass alittle bit. After that its wrap and glass. 8)

[TalNLnky]

i had always thought about using laser pointers....

[Robert]

Yeah, we thought about that too, but Im not buying them :wink:

[singlesubsetup]

you never stop amazing me with the work you do.... That was a pretty smart idea useing the string....

btw what did your brother ever do with his box? did he ever finish it?

[Robert]

We may try vinyling it. Its to damn cold to paint anything right now :( Id rather see it painted. May have to break down and have a paint shop finish it. :?

[singlesubsetup]

aww too bad:(

[Robert]

Little update. I trimed the fiberglass back with the thought of having a red kick panel with a black speaker pod. Well, making the two seperate I didnt like the way it was going to look. Custom panels should be one piece. So with the rings mounted I made some struts out of 1/2" mdf. Took the glass off and mounted the rings straight to the plastic. More pics to come as I get them done.

[Robert]

Got one wrapped before work.

[95Honda]

Where do you buy your fleece or is that something else?

[doc]

Lookin real nice!

[Robert]

Where do you buy your fleece or is that something else?

I reeeeeaaaalllllyyyy hate fleece. After its stretched out over a mold, unless you have access to the back side, its nearly impossible to soak resin all the way through it. I'll never use it again. Thats grill cloth and you should be able to get it in any decent fabric store. I think it runs around 8-10 bucks a yard and its around 4ft wide. Ive also used swim suit material thats 90% poly and 10% spandex. That worked well but is kind of expensive. Id only pick that up if theres need for extreme stretching for tight or odd shapes. Grill cloth is best IMO for 99% of any molds for glassing.

[95Honda]

Hmm, thought it look suspiciously like grill cloth....

I've used fleece a buch before, and yes it was a pain to get the resin through. Grill cloth would probably conform to the shape much, much better also.... Well Robert, I have some kicks I'm building this weekend. Imma give grill cloth a shot!

[Robert]

Yeah, if you havent used it before, I think you'll like it.

Some more pics. Drivers side is wrapped after three hours, three attempts and a burnt finger.

[TalNLnky]

hehehe... pretty sure i gave you the idea of using grill cloth.... stuff works great.

[Robert]

hehehe... pretty sure i gave you the idea of using grill cloth.... stuff works great.

Um, yeah, no.

One more pic for the day.

[Steven Kephart]

Grill cloth is my choice flavor as well. I only tried Fleece once after seeing it's popularity online and hated how much resin it needed.

On that Porsche install I did, Wal Mart didn't have any grill cloth so I tried this stretchy thick nylon material. That was a huge mistake because it was so stretchy, the weight of the resin made it sag, ruining my shape. Or when I did finally stretch it tight enough, the material was so thin it couldn't hold any resin. So you can go too far the other way as well. ;)

[Robert]

Grill cloth thins out pretty good. But its nice if your expecting the mold to bond with the wood. I tried the fleece on my single brahma box and the fleece never propely bonded to the mdf because I couldnt get it to soak through. Live and learn I guess..

Grill cloth is kinda flimsy stretched. I think the best was the swim suit material. Its stretches like a mofo and keeps it shape very well. Its just soo damn expensive. Almost twice the cost grill cloth.

[Robert]

On that Porsche install I did, Wal Mart didn't have any grill cloth so I tried this stretchy thick nylon material. That was a huge mistake because it was so stretchy, the weight of the resin made it sag, ruining my shape. Or when I did finally stretch it tight enough, the material was so thin it couldn't hold any resin. So you can go too far the other way as well. ;)

That install turned out really nice. Though I still think it needed another sub on the other side.

[TalNLnky]

On that Porsche install I did, Wal Mart didn't have any grill cloth so I tried this stretchy thick nylon material. That was a huge mistake because it was so stretchy, the weight of the resin made it sag, ruining my shape. Or when I did finally stretch it tight enough, the material was so thin it couldn't hold any resin. So you can go too far the other way as well. ;)

That install turned out really nice. Though I still think it needed another sub on the other side.
agreed... sub on one side looks lop-sided

[Robert]

I was hoping to get these to the bondo stage over the weekend, but that didnt happen. I just got them resined.

[singlesubsetup]

wow looking really nice.. you gonna leave them like that or paint them ???

[Robert]

I have to put them in the car to make sure I didnt warp anything first. Then they'll get scuffed up and probably two layers of glass on them. Bondo after that and then Im going to try some black vynil.

[TalNLnky]

when are you going to take a week long trip over here and doing the pods for my K8's?

actually next quarter i may in fact have time to get them done.... not sure, i'm hoping i do.

[Robert]

when are you going to take a week long trip over here and doing the pods for my K8's?

actually next quarter i may in fact have time to get them done.... not sure, i'm hoping i do.

If I can find door panels, I'll just get it done and send them to you.

[Robert]

Well, I rushed things and the drivers side kick didnt fit well. So I cut it, mounted it and now Im trying to patch it. Hopefully it will work and still look good. Heres some pics with them in the car (glass drying on the driver side).

[Robert]

More pics. Two are of the patch to get the drivers side to fit to my liking. And the other is a layer of mat drying on the passenger side. Im kinda hoping I can get away with a single layer of mat over the grill cloth. But if its not strong enough for me then I'll add more.

[Robert]

Starting the home for the Extremis and layed on some fiberglass reinforced bondo on the kicks.

[Robert]

Dead forum :? More pics :D

[MikeS]

Dead forum :? More pics :D

Really....

You are a natural with that glass work......

[Robert]

Update of another project. I was hopeing to get it done this weekend. But its not really MY project.. This is my brothers new box for dual JBL W10GTi's.

[Robert]

More pics..

[Robert]

Finally got my brothers box in and amps moved from the side of the trunk to the back seat.

[Robert]

Kicks have been installed for now and Im running them off the deck :oops: These little speakers are phenominal. After I get the Extremis pods done and my four channel installed, I'll take the kicks back out for vynil. I only have two problems I have now is the screws I used arnt magnetic, so the grills dont stay on and I have a bit of a fitment issue with the drivers side door panel.. But for today, its fine lol.

[Resonant18]

Lookin good.

[singlesubsetup]

:thumleft: :thumleft:

I see your skills have not deminished one bit... looks good... My (our) project has been postponed slightly... Leaving for disney land / universal studio on the 16th of april... will be back on 23rd (april)

might be end of summer :( BUT believe me i need a home for these 4 15's.. just give me some more time :)

keep up the good work robert and your NOT forgotten :)

[Robert]

Wow, your still alive. I guess I need to download yahoo lol..

PHASE TWO... Extremi Door Install

[Robert]

Well, my car takes a back seat again. Im doing an install for my supervisor at work. They system consists of an Apline cd deck, some sort of aftermarket coax speakers, my Orion 1200d and four Infinity Kappa Perfect 12's ported in the back of a Jeep.

The box is 6 cubes tuned to 26hz's with 50 sq inches of port.

[Robert]

Few more pics.

[singlesubsetup]

:shock:

SWEET!!!!

[Robert]

Top and bottom have been glassed. Bottom is being reenforced with fiberglass bondo. It will all be smoothed out when I get there and buy some more bondo.

[Robert]

Almost done. Just have to mount the amp, finish one side of the box, wire and mount the subs.

[singlesubsetup]

wow looking good !! .....

[Robert]

Had a fun little meter day today. My bro's dual 10's did a 138.9 legal and a 139.6 with the door open. The quad 12 box did a 141.6 legal, 142.3 door open and a 152.6 in the port at 25hz's 8) Nothing spectacular but not too bad daily systems designed for more sq than anything. Another guy was there with a single Pioneer 12 running a tcab style encloser that metered a 135.xx with around 1900 watts.. I'll hopefully get some pics and vids next saturday during a local grand opening.

Eh, almost forgot, I also metered the Xxx 18. It did a 126 at 45ish hz's on the front window of the house (loudest area to the ear) and a 144.x at 35ish hz's in the port 8) It really needs a bigger box. 12 cubes isnt cutting it. I didnt try and different firing positions but it wouldnt meter below 30hz's. :?

[Robert]

So I got the motivation to work on my car again today. I dont know if it was motivation to play with my car or try out all the new air tools I just bought lol. Anyways, its startng life molded to the door sheet metal..

I cant say enough for how much help air tools are with fiberglass work. I honestly dont know how I lived without it. Unfortunately, I had to stop becasue I killed the compressor. Good thing its under warrenty :roll:

[Robert]

Heres some pics of the tools. Right angle grinder (the routher of fiberglass lol), body saw and 3" cut off wheel. I also got a stapler, detail paint gun and ratchet. I still have to go back for more lol..