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MikeS
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« on: October 12, 2007, 11:06:20 pm » |
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Ok, there is about seven folks in the USA who have bought these Klipsch cinema speakers for home use, the Jubilee.
They are using them as a two-way set-up. The commercial version of Jubilee is a three-way speaker. The ones used for home use have the tweeter driver mounted to the midhorn, the K402.
The bass bin is about 41 inches wide, 24 inches deep. and sort of of a triangle shape. About 4.5' tall. The horn is the same width as the bass bin. Roughly over 6 feet tall at the top of the horn.
They ain't most attractive by no means, but they throw off a monster soundstage and are sensitive as hell.
Six of the owners in the USA, are using them bi-amped with a active crossover, which has time delay and EQ. One guy is going the passive route.
This local guy has his system with the cinema Klipsch on the lower level/den area. And a system upstairs with a pair of Klipschorns. The Khorns are nice and butted tight up in the corners, about 12-15 feet apart. A McIntosh SACD player is the source, with a McIntosh MC275 power amp, using KT-88 output tubes.
He parks me in the sweet spot and plays some new age indian type drum music. The first I notice is how clean and tight the drums were. No overhang when things like the djembe were struck. The bass from a Klipschorn is pretty damn good if dialed-in properly. I bought some 845 tubes from another guy who had a big 845 SET with Khorns. I listened to his rig, it's like a 2A3 with more bass and power. One thing I noticed, is this guy's Khorns had mid and top-end similiar to my Klipsch Cornwalls. The Khorn rig with the Mac SACD player and MC275 amp didn't have the same midrange and top-end sound. It was smoother, and more refined.
I brought this up to him.
He then explains that he did crossover mods, and replaced the stock Klipsch tweeter with a Beyma tweeter. I dunno if he changed the driver on the midhorn, I don't think he did.... The woofer is the stock generic Eminence K-33E.
He said he hated the Klipsch EV T-35, K-77 tweeters. I have to totally agree with him. They have a tizzy, rough sound, and most don't have greatest HF bandwidth. In this day in age, there is much better for the same price or less with respect to those tweeters.
This guy listened to his upstairs rig daily. So it was warmed up, and he has those Khorns sounding rather excellent with respect to tonality and overall balance. To my ears...
We go downstairs, and see the Jubilees. They are about 12-15 feet apart. They are bi-amped. A Mac CD or SACD player for a source, a McIntosh pre-amp, a EV (DX-38?) active crossover, and two Mac MC275 power amps.
He's a busy man, and it is obvious he is still playing with his big toys, dialing them in. He said he hadn't turned it on in 3 months. And I really only got to listen to the rig for about 10 minutes. The left horn was doing ocean/beach noise. He mentioned one of the amps may need re-bias, or bias help. The K402 with driver is 114 dB efficient, the bass bins are 108 dB sensitivity. So any little noises are magnified big time.
He brought the same new age recording downstairs, and played the same track. The bass is rather close to the Khorn, with more output. But it wasn't quite as clean and tight as the upstairs system.
I would think if the amps were warmed-up with no ocean breeze, the bass would be the same if not better. With more output. The top-end was pretty much the same as the modded Khorn, but just a wee bit rougher. He said he was still tweaking out some peaks and nulls.
Compared to a Khorn, the width of the soundstage, and the higher efficiency, the jubilee dwarfs a Klipschorn. These things can flat boogie. He and the wife watch movies with a projector of some sort. He said they really pack a wallop with earth noise and explosions. But that's what they are for. Nearfield seems strange, but it works.....
The guy that came up with the K402 horn, and the EV active crossover bi-amp idea with the bass bin, is Roy Degaldo.
Paul Klispch took Roy under his wing years ago. Paul designed and built the Jubilee bass bin, and they have used it for commercial applications for some time. Roy came up with the 2-way horn idea in a HT application, and some folks bought them for home use.
Roy calls them the "Plug Uglies".....indeed...that ain't no shit.
PWK was aware of the K402 horn, and other types were used. There is a picture of Paul Klipsch with a fancy veneered Jubilee bass bin, and a fancy wooden horn atop.
But from what I understand, that was just a horn, with no driver. Just for a photo shoot I suppose....it looks really cool, however.
They are rather flexible. The bass bins don't need to be in corners like a Khorn, and the horns can be angled. He mentioned the option of being able to have set parameters with the EV active crossover, to tailor EQ, and time delay to different types of music.
They are a true two-way horn speaker, the horns measure out to 19 kHz.
I favored the upstairs Khorn system with respect to overall tonality, and for obvious reasons. But the big cinema speakers have a bigger than life sound, and I'm sure have excellent tonal balance when things are lashed up right.
I guess if I had the income and room, I'd play with a pair of these.
After all that horn loaded bass, I was interested enough to try some Klipsch Lascalas. Hell, it's free.....I think they are white oak. At least they aren't black, I dunno...I pick them up tomorrow.
He has one helluva impressive test gear bench.
MikeS
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