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Author Topic: LM3886 chipamp project  (Read 684 times)
todd.brust
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« on: October 15, 2007, 08:45:19 am »

well i pretty much have the heatsink figured out, my biggest concern as of now is finding a power transformer...i need to get a dual secondary @ 25v to 30v with 250 to 300VA...i am having trouble even finding some on the internet, 28v would be ideal, that way when it is rectified it would be a little over 39 so i could use the chip to full potential....+/- 40V

i have mentioned the idea of winding my own torroidal transformer but would like to avoid it...there has also been talked of just building a switching power supply...

anyone here have some suggestions for my application?
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« on: October 15, 2007, 08:45:19 am »

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95Honda
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2007, 09:42:58 am »

A word to the wise about your transformer-

You know that the RMS secondary voltage multiplied by 1.414 is going to equal your rectified DC voltage (that is why you chose a 28Vrms secondary tranny).....  Only problem is it doesn't really work that way.  In an ideal world you would get your 39.xxxx volts DC, but you will actually see more like 43-45V with no load and damage your chip, and here is why.

Most transformers spec out a 115V primary, most places you can live in the country are well above this.  In Spokane I would see anything from 118-122Volts, depending on the time of day.  So, that is going to add a volt or so to your secondary RMS voltage, even worse if the transformer has 110V primaries.

Second, the output voltage is figured under a prescibed load, it will be higher under low or no load (where an audio amplifier is about 90% of the time)  It is going to be signifigantly higher with smaller transformers (like 500 watts or less) because they do not have the regulation charactoristics of the bigger ones.  So figure a volt or so higher again under low or no load conditions.

Why are transformers rated like this?  So they meet specification under worst case conditions, simple as that.  Problem is, when you are running an Unregulated, Linear DC power supply, this means your DC voltage will always be higher than caluculated using the manufacturers specs.  In fact, you would probably end up somewhere around 43-45 volts when you are all said and done, and damage the chip....

Linear power supplies are tricky, and you really have to be carefull about selecting a transformer that is right if you aren't regulating or are planning on running the upper limits of whatever circuit your are powering.

If you buy the P/E Avel Lindberg torroid http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=122-625 that has 25+25VRMS secondaries, your power supply will sit a few volts below 40vdc and everything will work happily ever after, and it's 250VA also, should be perfect...  I have used many Avel Lindbergs in the past and have been real happy.
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todd.brust
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 10:52:14 am »

well it all makes sense...i just thought a 28 v would be fine....i was told some people run 30 + 30 and not have problems but i like reliability and and not having to worry that it might fail so i'll probably go one the safe side and get one of these!  thanks for the insight and link....


maybe i'll do a regulated power supply on a different project...it is just a matter of time until i will want to build something new after this one...
i'll get some logs going here when i acyually purchase everything...might be a while...my car took a shit on me last week and my intake manifold cracked...yeah cracked because ford uses a plastic intake manifold
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